I was thinking this to be more of the case, I'm just trying to understand them a little better as to become a more effective goose getter.. I don't think that I can get them off the roost with my magic call ( I'm not bad for a beginner so I'm told). I've just found that when I call, more often than not, I get flyovers and the occational circle. I was also wondering if you may have thought this to be a territorial issue. Someone is stealing my cheese kind of thing for them???