I need a 10 gause recipe.

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nr_gooseslayer

Discussion Starter · Nov 21, 2004

Friend just bought a 10 ga reloader. Need a recipe for 10 gauge shells. If you know one or where to find one post up.

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Steve P

· #2 · Dec 26, 2004

Howdy, need some 10 recipies Ill give a 1 1/4 ounce lead target load that I shoot sporting clays, trap, or skeet with, and a 1 1/2 ounce steel load that should pound the geese for ya.

LEAD LOAD: Federal or Remington 3.5 inch hull
Winchester 209 or Remington 209p primer
29 grains of GREEN DOT powder
Remington SP10 wad
1 1/4 ounce of 6, 7, 8 shot LEAD
Felt spacers, or Paper disks over shot

STEEL LOAD: Federal Hull
Winchester 209 primer
39.5 grains of IMR SR 4756
RSI SAM1 10 3.5 wad
TWO 1/8 inch 12 gauge felts
1 1/2 ounce BBB or T STEEL SHOT

Also Bucks Run sells the steel components, including Hulls, Primers, powder, Shot, Wads and even a very handy reloading guide for around $10 Call them at 1800-274-0403 or visit www.bucksrunsports.com
for more info.

Hope this helps, and I hope this Posting turns out I am New to the Forum and this is my first post.
P.S. They also have recipe books for bisthmuth and hevi-shot for the 10

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JWG

· #3 · Dec 28, 2004

Steve P, recipes sound yummy. You shoot doves with that lead load in 8's? Ha haaaaah! Just foolin. I'm really looking at getting a 10 Ga. What do you shoot for a gun? Sorry ahead of time for getting off the subject.

smokin Gun

· #4 · Dec 28, 2004

Reply to 10ga. recipes

1. 10 ga. 3.5 Federal or winchester hulls
2. Hercules blue dot powder.
3. CCI 209A primers
4. Ballistic pre split wads. (full length cups) from Ballistic products
5. ( T ) shot (Steel)

You will need a 10ga. loader ( Mec 600 jr.)
39A powder bushing & a 2 OZ. shot bar

*note * the ( T ) shot is too large to go through the loader and will have to be loaded by hand.
After the wad is inserted,fill the wad to the top and crimp. Now you have a real goose load. Don't worry they are within specs. and the speed is 1800 fps.
this is also a 2 1/4 oz load
When I pull the trigger Geese die.
I am also useing a Remington SP10 with a pattern mastern choke

This sounds like a heavy load and it is. I have killed Canadain Geese
100 + yards and I have people withe me that could not beleive it.

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goosehunter2118

· #5 · Dec 29, 2004

smokin Gun said:
I have killed Canadain Geese
100 + yards and I have people withe me that could not beleive it.

:shock: I thought 50 yards was far. :lol:

Steve P

· #6 · Dec 29, 2004

Hey guys, I dont want to piss anyone off here so if I am wrong please let me know and I am sorry. That last recipie that was posted looked dangerous as could be. 1 3/4 ounce of steel at 1300 fps is generaly as heavy as you can push in steel with a 10 gauge. 1800 fps with 2 1/4 ounce of steel sounds way out of the 10's capacity. Again I dont want to piss anyone off by telling them that there recipe is wrong- Mabey it was miss printed and the load is for 1 1/4 ounce of steel- I could see that going at 1800 fps and still being low enough presure. Smoking Gun can you shed some light on this?
JWG: I wouldnt use 1 1/4 of 8 for doves I think at least 2 oz is required for such a tough animal. LOL. I shoot a 28 inch Browning BPS pump. I love it. I have shot the Ithica mag-10 and remington SP-10 and they both shoot fine, I just went with the Pump because I have never been a fan of autos.

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smokin Gun

· #7 · Dec 30, 2004

Steve ! I have had these loads tested at a local GUN club that does this for the members. The load I described earler,is a result of trying many different powders ,wads, primers, and shot. I would not shoot anything that would not hurt the gun or myself. I have been useing this load for the last 3 years , and have been loading my shells for 20 years.
Every load I have tryed I had tested first. These loads are for STEEL only not LEAD. If anyone is in doubt don't use it . But if anyone does use it they will Kill Geese up to 100+yards
I kill them DEAD in the AIR!!!!!! I am tired of chaseing them on the ground.
I have also been Hunting Geese for 35 years.

Ithacamagten

· #8 · Jan 18, 2005

I am finally glad to hear someone say that they have killed geese at 100 yards. Here is my story. Back in the days of 2 1/4 oz. of lead BBs, my son and I traveled to MD. a dozen times or so goose hunting around Princess Anne. I still have the Ithaca MagTen 32" full gun that I used then. A man from Richmond Va. "Shotguns Unlimited" bored the barrel, lengthened rear forcing cone and reshaped the front cone. This gun was a goose stomper at 95 yards all day long. I still use the gun today but I of course use steel shot. It shoots like a rifle. I also used it for years with 1 1/2 oz. of 8 shot for doves. My personal opinion that the lighter loads are best with the steel.

Ithaca MagTen
North Carolina

smokin Gun

· #9 · Jan 18, 2005

I'm glad to see that someone else knows that a 10GA.
will reach out and TOUCH THEM

peaver

· #10 · Jan 1, 2012

On the 2 1/4 oz T shot reloads that are at 1800fps. Ballistic Products sells a number of pre-split full length 10 gauge wads.
Can you provide the correct stock number?

peaver

· #11 · Jan 1, 2012

Also on the 2 1/4 oz "T" shot load of 1800fps.
How many grains of Hercules blue dot powder ?
You list a bushing size for the MEC reloader, but if I was using another brand loader, how many grains of powder are you dropping?

Thanks

Peaver

duck slayer

· #12 · Jan 1, 2012

1. 10 ga. 3.5 Federal or winchester hulls
2. Hercules blue dot powder.
3. CCI 209A primers
4. Ballistic pre split wads. (full length cups) from Ballistic products
5. ( T ) shot (Steel)

You will need a 10ga. loader ( Mec 600 jr.)
39A powder bushing & a 2 OZ. shot bar

*note * the ( T ) shot is too large to go through the loader and will have to be loaded by hand.
After the wad is inserted, fill the wad to the top and crimp. Now you have a real goose load. Don't worry they are within specs. and the speed is 1800 fps.
this is also a 2 1/4 oz load
When I pull the trigger Geese die.
I am also using a Remington SP10 with a pattern master choke

This sounds like a heavy load and it is. I have killed Canadian Geese
100 + yards and I have people with me

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DSM16428

· #13 · Jan 1, 2012

Have you ever seen a goose at 100 yards?! They are smaller than the bead on your shotgun. Also, I have NEVER seen a 2 1/4 ounce steel shot load...ever...especially at a whopping 1800 fps! That would knock you backwards to the ground and right out of the head of your layout. That velocity is more like from a 1 1/4 ounce load and with T shot in that load I think you get somewhere around what?...60 pellets? At 40 yards you might be able to get 80-90% pattern, but add another SIXTY YARDS to that and there's probably 5 feet between each pellet. Gimme a break. Callin bs on this one.

War Wagon

· #14 · Jan 1, 2012

I also think this is a little streching the load limits of a 10ga. I'm 58 years old and i think i would not see 59 if i put one of these loads together. Did you find this load at the end of the Rainbow ?

DSM16428

· #15 · Jan 1, 2012

Speaking of rainbows! How bout the amount of DROP at 100 yards! Its gonna be somewhere around 6 feet...at least with a pattern around10 feet in diameter. Guys, the gun does not kill the bird! The pellet does. I don't care what you think your gun wil do, I gaurantee you there isn't enough pattern at 100 yards with steel T shot to prevent holes big enough to fly a california condor through, let alone a goose. Seriously, you are giving the sport and yourselves a bad name when you say things like "At 100 yards, every time I pull the trigger, geese die". You show me a pattern at 100 confirmed yards that'll reliably and ethically kill geese and I leave you alone on this. Until then, get a clue guys. You sound rediculous.

mikebig1

· #16 · Jan 11, 2012

posting dangerous loads without proven data can cause some issues... I reload for my 10 ga.. and I have loaded some hot loads... but nothing in that range of 1800 fps.. what chamber pressure are you at?.. how many grains of powder?.. have you chronographed this load and tested it?... my max load for my 10 has been:

10 ga win hull (black supreme)
federal 209A primer
50 gr. alliant steel powder ( lot 12)
RSI Sam 1 wad 3.5 in. wad cutback .200 to fit case.
1 3/8 oz. steel shot (BB or larger)
1689 fps @ 11.100 psi

most shotgun chamber pressures are factory proof tested to withstand around 13.000 psi .. some european shotguns are rated to 14.000 you exceed these pressures and ugly things happen.. may I suggest you proof your loads before you post on the internet..when you start making wildcat loads, there is not much room to play with.. any change in components, (especially with steel) will lead to failed loads or worse.. I am fortunate to know some trusting individuals that proof test all loads before I get them.. and have the specialized equipment made for testing all types of shotgun loads. they test them in their own personal weapons before I get to.

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DSM16428

· #17 · Jan 11, 2012

You know the worst part about this whole thread? We're tearing apart an almost SIX YEAR OLD THREAD. :rolling: Hey, at least somebody decided to use the search option for a change. Too bad the next guy that posted doesn't have clue one about what he's talking about...

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