[NY Fingerlakes Hunter]

I bought Honker Talk and have watched it 4 times and my call still sounds like a party horn only lower. I have a HS Slamer SR. Went to Bass Pro and tried the $100+ calls and still sounded like a low party horn.
I have tried humming, growling standing on my head and am very frustrated. All I want to do is learn the laydown call for now.
Any and all help appreciated.

 

[duckman1106]

Remember you have to force air up from your diaphragm, like a quarterback saying "hut hut" over the crowd noise. But instead of "hut" try saying "huck" or "wick", cutting off the air with the back of your tongue and throat. Really exaggerate on the "ck" on the end, forcefully cutting off your air. That is how I finally learned how to break over a short reed. Don't forget to position your hands to give yourself back pressure. As for the laydown/feeder call, say "duh duh duh duh" with a few clucks thrown in after you can break the call over. Give it a try and let us know how you do.

 

[Tmoney]

make sure to break hard between the tuuuu and whit parts

tuuuuu (hard break) whiiiittt
forcing more air through the call during the whiiit part

take back your HS slammer- i tried one , and tuned to right, and it still sounds bad- stick and locks often- i even shaved the reed which helped a little- but there are better poly calls out there- zink poly, foiles meat grinder to name a couple.

 

[KpHonknImRloadn]

First getting something alittle better would help, and also i sort of had that problem at first. What i then learned to do is put the middle finger of my hand holding the call in front of the ehaust port which seemed to make it break a little easier. anyone else do that?

 

[duckman1106]

tuuuuu (hard break) whiiiittt
forcing more air through the call during the whiiit part

Make sure you aren't trying to make a lower case "o" sound like "hoot." It needs to be a "u" sound like "hut." Don't try to say toooo whit into a short reed. That is how you blow a flute. Say tooo whiit, then say "go" or "ho" or "hut" without the t at the end or something like that. The difference is "too" is done behind your teeth with a small mouth cavity. Short reed calling is done with the back of the throat with a large mouth cavity.

 

[Tmoney]

aparently duckman hasn't seen Honker Talk

you can use tuuuu-whhiiiiitt ( tooo-whiiit) for the hail call
or you can add some throat into it and say
guuuuu ( or gooooo) -wwhhiittttttt

the tuuuu- has no throat or voice- and sounds louder for distant migrators.
This is exactly whats on Honker Talk
Sean Stahl describes the same situations.
Believe me- I wouldn't have posted it- if it wasn't right

 

[C-Dubb]

I just made my first two shorties. I have never heard a short reed goose call unless it happened to be in an active hunt on a tape. I had nothing to go by other than the calling tips Bill Saunders web site. I too had trouble at first. I found that holding a finger in front of (NOT ON) helped me figure what kind of air it took. Later I removed the finger and it still sounded great.
If anyone is interested, for a small cost mostly for materials and shipping I need someone to test my call. Just visit my website at www.cdubbscustomcalls.com and mention this thread.

Good Hunting and God Bless
C Dubb

 

[ShortReed]

I've watched Honker Talk many times... but the best advice given to me by another guy who could really blow a shortreed was this. Blow into the call with a growl or throaty sound like you are going to say HUT, just leave the T off. Once you've got a murmur sound going, break it with a T or C just keep the tip of your tongue down behind your teeth... you should be using the middle of your tongue to produce the break and sound. This will produce the basic hail call, but as you get used to your tongue breaking the call this way, you can start speeding it up to get your clucks. Doing alot of the stuff from the Honker Talk video became easier when I just focused on getting a good basic sound out of my call (patience is something I lack). An easy blowing call makes the learning process alot less painful... try Canada Hammer II for $20.00. I posted on another thread about this call, I think you'll like it.

 

[C-Dubb]

Ive just finished watching Honker Talk and took my call out to my shop. I can not get a nice raspy honk with out doing what you have just described. This is VERY frustrating. :evil: I will keep trying. :? [/quote]